tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post761539265026743951..comments2024-03-28T10:41:26.999-06:00Comments on Blood-Red Pencil: Rosie the Riveter and Lilly LedbetterDanihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14471919576687777886noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-82607783102529281062018-03-18T16:43:10.287-06:002018-03-18T16:43:10.287-06:00Each generation of women fight this battle, making...Each generation of women fight this battle, making small increments of progress. It's hard to do when men are in charge of so many things, but I have faith in our daughters to continue the battle.Susan Gourley/Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669793865290876168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-80957235077581683412018-03-17T16:08:57.917-06:002018-03-17T16:08:57.917-06:00And as Lilly Ledbetter's lawsuit pointed out, ...And as Lilly Ledbetter's lawsuit pointed out, women are still struggling to find pay parity. I hope our sons make the future changes.Polly Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05729656119287702191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-78162392007009251132018-03-17T11:58:31.158-06:002018-03-17T11:58:31.158-06:00Very interesting to know more about these two wome...Very interesting to know more about these two women. What Rosie did, and the women who worked in the factories at that time, was their way of contributing to the war effort. But as the men came home, the ones who wanted to stay in the factories had to fight to keep their jobs. She was, and still is, such an inspiration.Maryannwriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479027709233807149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-42406304196153787282018-03-16T11:30:59.519-06:002018-03-16T11:30:59.519-06:00Exactly! Me too in the tractor factory. The people...Exactly! Me too in the tractor factory. The people who worked there all told me to go to college so I could get a better job. However, that job sure paid well!Kaye Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05596677617002735674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-55020841359504591492018-03-16T10:49:44.172-06:002018-03-16T10:49:44.172-06:00I worked in the shoe factory the summer before col...I worked in the shoe factory the summer before college. It was enough to know that's not a job in my future.<br />Polly Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05729656119287702191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-78157620410298586222018-03-16T10:00:05.484-06:002018-03-16T10:00:05.484-06:00I should add that I don't think the tractor fa...I should add that I don't think the tractor factories hired many women after that, but a few. Two other teenagers and I got summer jobs filling in for the older woman when they went on vacation.Kaye Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05596677617002735674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-10442443855064418052018-03-16T09:20:39.622-06:002018-03-16T09:20:39.622-06:00That's good to know, Kaye. I think the Rosie j...That's good to know, Kaye. I think the Rosie jobs were mostly Defense Department jobs, making weapons and bombs, but the period opened the doors for more women to work at what were considered to be men's jobs. If women got jobs in the companies you mentioned and kept them, all the better. My mother worked in the shoe factories, but those were mostly women's jobs to begin with. Lucky we lived in the Shoe Capital of the World back then.Polly Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05729656119287702191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-80471140134625413382018-03-16T08:56:15.540-06:002018-03-16T08:56:15.540-06:00Where I'm from, the women DID stay in the fact...Where I'm from, the women DID stay in the factory jobs, at John Deere and International Harvester. They were still there, as older women, when I got a summer job in the IH factory as a janitor. Because they were union jobs, the women got equal pay and it was very good! Best money I made for many years. I realize these are exceptions, but there were places where the women kept their WWII jobs and were glad to have them. Kaye Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05596677617002735674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-16308252019868149012018-03-16T07:46:34.936-06:002018-03-16T07:46:34.936-06:00Another problem, Patricia, because history is a we...Another problem, Patricia, because history is a weakened subject in schools. We need to resurrect history courses so these things don't repeat. It took decades for women to be heard.<br />Polly Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05729656119287702191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-47293573838987906822018-03-16T07:41:25.619-06:002018-03-16T07:41:25.619-06:00Good points, Diana, but this was really the first ...Good points, Diana, but this was really the first time women were allowed to do "man's work." We all know women are the backbone of every society except in the Middle East where they're not allowed to be.Polly Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05729656119287702191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-79167729626136174112018-03-16T07:37:48.474-06:002018-03-16T07:37:48.474-06:00Yes, Linda, the fight still goes on. Glad I'm ...Yes, Linda, the fight still goes on. Glad I'm not in the workforce anymore.<br />Polly Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05729656119287702191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-6667143112191176032018-03-15T09:24:08.250-06:002018-03-15T09:24:08.250-06:00Excellent post, Polly! I'm not sure enough of ...Excellent post, Polly! I'm not sure enough of today's young women know the stories of women who worked so hard in the past to get us to the present. Yes, there's more to be done, but we have come a long way!Patricia Stolteyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17192369425956406122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-55446269204547910542018-03-15T09:19:58.486-06:002018-03-15T09:19:58.486-06:00My biggest pet peeve is the idea that women didn&#...My biggest pet peeve is the idea that women didn't work before then. Women have always worked. There may have been a few rich women whose husbands and fathers would not allow them to participate in what was considered "a man's world." But the queens, spies, court attendants, maids, nannies, cooks, midwives, healers, herbalists, weavers, seamstresses, milliners, lacemakers, bakers, cheese makers, farmers, homemakers, craftswomen, factory workers, laundresses, tavern wenches, madams, and prostitutes, all worked. Event the so-called rarefied "women of leisure" had to keep account books, plan parties, make decisions about supplies and inventory in the home, mend and embroider, sing, dance, perform, and navigate social politics with expertise all white providing the heir and spare. I have no doubt that many were co-architects if not the actual "brains" behind their husband's successes in managing large estates and other business endeavors. So lets banish the myth of nonworking women and accept that some men didn't want to share power, wealth, or credit so they promoted this unrealistic image of women and wrote laws to make it stay that way.Diana Hurwitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18216220574149672733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-24931076371828934362018-03-15T06:31:07.772-06:002018-03-15T06:31:07.772-06:00Rosie the Riveter, an image that represented all w...Rosie the Riveter, an image that represented all women who stepped up to the plate during WWII to fill jobs vacated by soldiers heading to war, and Lilly Ledbetter, a flesh and blood woman who won a lawsuit for equal pay against a major corporation, represent all women who ask only to be granted equality in all areas of life. Will that equality ever really be attained? I don't know, but I do know that fairness dictates the reasonableness of equal pay for equal work and equal opportunity based on education and ability, not on gender. It sounds so simple, yet it rarely seems to happen. This is a really thoughtful post, Polly, and the battle continues.Linda Lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06686488133905538811noreply@blogger.com