tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post3698910756409979966..comments2024-03-28T10:41:26.999-06:00Comments on Blood-Red Pencil: Worst of Being an EditorDanihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14471919576687777886noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-45115368926039487032012-12-28T18:48:11.054-07:002012-12-28T18:48:11.054-07:00That certainly is crazy, Alison. Especially not ta...That certainly is crazy, Alison. Especially not taking advantage of a freebie! Oh, well, maybe humour is more important than correct grammar...Elle Carter Nealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02266309723919011181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-65332589132271162932012-12-28T05:09:59.879-07:002012-12-28T05:09:59.879-07:00Well, actually, Elle, we didn't get any client...Well, actually, Elle, we didn't get any clients that way. Crazy, right? We thought it was a great plan. Even crazier is that most of those businesses didn't make the effort to pass the corrected version of their blurb to the appropriate website person. We finally figured out that if we couldn't assure these business owners that correcting their English would raise their bottom line, it wouldn't be that important to them. And that was an assurance we couldn't reasonable give, especially when we've had "gringos" here telling us that they like laughing at the mistakes on the menus. sigh.<br /><br />On the positive side of that went-nowhere-fast venture, we had a good time, and it resulted in a few word related jobs for me--translating deeds and other documents from Spanish to English for local lawyers. And I've got enough brightly colored 1/4 page backs of fliers to use as scrap paper until the next (just as bright) idea comes along.<br /><br />alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17481879917467051418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-39498494748787715932012-12-27T16:19:05.326-07:002012-12-27T16:19:05.326-07:00That's hilarious, Alison. And what a great way...That's hilarious, Alison. And what a great way to promote your editing services. I'm sure you got a lot of work by showing potential clients what you could do for them. Elle Carter Nealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02266309723919011181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-13086173403455938132012-12-26T06:56:37.095-07:002012-12-26T06:56:37.095-07:00Hi All,
Great list and comments. I can definitel...Hi All, <br /><br />Great list and comments. I can definitely relate and add one of my "worsts." <br /><br />A friend and I started a menu, sign, website editing business here in Puerto Rico. She pestered me for some time about doing it, but it wasn't until she shoved a promotional flier for a new cafe under my nose, that I agreed. It started off with "MEET BALLS" and ended with "CRAP CAKES." And there was a whole slew of goodies in between. <br /><br />So, we came up with a great name, catchy slogan, perfect logo, and a gazillion promotional fliers of our own. We then went to one town's tourism website (businesses have to pay to be listed there) and copied/corrected/printed off all of the blurbs they had for the restaurants and hotels in the area. We then made the rounds to those businesses, giving them the corrected copy in the hopes that they would hire us to correct their own websites. We also visited and promoted to many businesses in other towns in western PR. And we followed up by email, phone, or in person.<br /><br />Okay, all this to add to the list of worsts that it is quite demoralizing to talk to business owners and managers who heartily agree that their menu/signage/etc. is in need, at times sore need, of an English overhaul, but then none of them follow through with having it done. <br /><br />Crap cake, anyone? :-)<br /><br />Alisonalisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17481879917467051418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-60223890617400469822009-01-21T14:17:00.000-07:002009-01-21T14:17:00.000-07:00Yeah, I used to carry various Sharpies with me for...Yeah, I used to carry various Sharpies with me for sign corrections (not that I ever <I>did</I> correct anything). Grocery store signs proclaiming "Apple's $1/lb." still drive me absolutely crazy.<BR/><BR/>Over the past few weeks, the CBC's been airing a commercial that uses "much" instead of the proper "many" (and possibly "less" instead of "fewer"). I don't know what the product being advertised is because I'm so distracted by the grammar.Jenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07832420356107544084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-25613534228945053242009-01-09T07:25:00.000-07:002009-01-09T07:25:00.000-07:00I freelance edit and proof for a couple of compani...I freelance edit and proof for a couple of companies and I too agree with that list. It got so automatic to look for mistakes that I once found one on a poster in the hospital emergency room I was in with my husband! He laughed at me over that one for a long time. One good thing, my kids (who write fanfics) come to me for revisions and edits before they publish.<BR/><BR/>I have done or do do all of those things. I've had to teach myself not to when I'm reading for pleasure.<BR/><BR/>LilLilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06344372710850581174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-14732867841324534882009-01-06T02:02:00.000-07:002009-01-06T02:02:00.000-07:00Great list!My kids, especially, hide my red pencil...Great list!<BR/>My kids, especially, hide my red pencil and red pens. When I changed them to purple, it worked for a while since that was a different color than the red from their teachers. Now my college age daughter *delights* in correcting my grammar, especially when I'm lazy in speaking at home to her. <BR/><BR/>I do need to stop myself from offering corrections on anyone's written work who is not soliciting help, like blogs. Oh, the errors in the newspaper, magazines, or books "grind my grits."<BR/><BR/>In personal emails, I'm kind. I make typos. It's the professional email that I am sure to edit (and still some slip by), but recently I'm about to go nuts that a professional correspondent repeatedly makes the same error which is neither spelling nor grammar; it's simply the wrong word; it's a word similar to a common word he means to use. I look at it and want to fix it!-<BR/>gelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-66758009492087302542009-01-05T19:27:00.000-07:002009-01-05T19:27:00.000-07:00The more you learn about how to write books proper...The more you learn about how to write books properly the more you notice it when authors don't. It does take away from some of the enjoyment.<BR/><BR/>Morgan Mandel<BR/>http://morganmandel.blogspot.com<BR/>http://www.morganmandel.comMorgan Mandelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118929301591850918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-124700930939484662009-01-05T18:48:00.000-07:002009-01-05T18:48:00.000-07:00Although I agree with most of #5, obviously, I thi...Although I agree with most of #5, obviously, I think there are some cases where two educated people can have a disagreement--particularly where commas, semi-colons, and dashes are concerned. My favorite anecdote in regards to this was when I read how Julian Barnes--Julian Barnes!--used to wait with dismay while <I>New Yorker</I> "grammar minions" marked up his Letter from London columns. He said something like, "I would soon know how many infinitives I'd split. Where I'd used 'that' where I should have used 'which.' Where I'd used 'which' where I should have used 'that.' Look here, my philosophy on it has always been that if there's a 'which' doing business nearby, use 'that.' The grammar minions didn't see it as such..."<BR/><BR/>:)Joe P. Frickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283148808120707382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-12357745378503945472009-01-05T18:41:00.000-07:002009-01-05T18:41:00.000-07:00Oh, this is very funny! Yes, all the folks who don...Oh, this is very funny! Yes, all the folks who don't want to share ANY of their writing because they're afraid of THE EDITOR.Michelle A. McKenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10878757962974597271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-21419289018190674992009-01-05T15:02:00.000-07:002009-01-05T15:02:00.000-07:00#5, especiallyMY LEAST FAVORITE BY FARRRRRRR::weep...#5, especially<BR/><BR/>MY LEAST FAVORITE BY FARRRRRRR<BR/><BR/>::weeps::moonrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294151043419378509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-17838337207458996712009-01-05T11:00:00.000-07:002009-01-05T11:00:00.000-07:00Great comments, especially for a Monday morning! @...Great comments, especially for a Monday morning! <BR/><BR/>@Fran: I love your description of this need to be right as a little demon.<BR/><BR/>@Helen: I couldn't agree more with it being hard to read for pleasure. A new editor I was mentoring cursed me for ruining her ability to read for fun ... but she said it with a smile. <BR/><BR/>@Heidi: AGREED!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-36313628825148457722009-01-05T08:34:00.000-07:002009-01-05T08:34:00.000-07:00I'm convinced that we need roving editors correcti...I'm convinced that we need roving editors correcting the spelling and punctuation of everything. <I>Everything</I>. Tip cups labelled "tip's" drive me eight kinds of nuts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865524260060421873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-65172172574461406772009-01-05T08:14:00.000-07:002009-01-05T08:14:00.000-07:00Sort of an extension of your list, I find it hard ...Sort of an extension of your list, I find it hard to read for pleasure. First off, you have to find time. When I'm editing a manuscript, I read it at least three times. That sort of cuts into the available pleasure reading time. And second, as you said, it's difficult to turn off the editor when you do get to read for pleasure. You pick up on, not just grammar errors, but plot glitches and things where an editor should have said, wait a minute here, let's work on this.<BR/><BR/>But on the plus side, there's nothing more joyful than seeing a client's book get published!Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-46685197410734728742009-01-05T07:51:00.000-07:002009-01-05T07:51:00.000-07:00Absolutely all of the above. It's like a little de...Absolutely all of the above. It's like a little demon inside, this need to be right. Those little errors, tiny semi-colons, wrong apostrophes, drive us crazy.<BR/><BR/>I haven't been a paid editor for over 20 years, but it never goes away. <BR/><BR/>In my own writing, now that I'm revising a 450 page novel, the critters are still turning up, no matter how many times I've tweaked it. So much for flow in writing.Fran Caldwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13545648992948168762noreply@blogger.com