tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post6354720142689012582..comments2024-03-28T10:41:26.999-06:00Comments on Blood-Red Pencil: Rules or Artistic LicenseDanihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14471919576687777886noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-40790093605570677892009-12-16T01:47:39.056-07:002009-12-16T01:47:39.056-07:00Ginger,
I'm with you on wanting to read new a...Ginger,<br /><br />I'm with you on wanting to read new and fresh stories.Lillie Ammannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851121176224654240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-80691872065503022152009-12-15T15:28:29.953-07:002009-12-15T15:28:29.953-07:00Hi Lillie,
Great post. I totally agree that we oft...Hi Lillie,<br />Great post. I totally agree that we often need to break rules to have our own voice...within reason. I'm totally sick of reading books that fit inside a tidy little box. Call me a rebe...cause I want to read new and fresh ideas, and I could give a fig if a sentence ends with a preposition. <br /><br />GingerAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683064637626718318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-71913970904822104862008-10-20T00:19:00.000-06:002008-10-20T00:19:00.000-06:00Mike,Of course, there are exceptions to every rule...Mike,<BR/>Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. An uneducated laborer could have learned to talk like a college professor, but that should be shown in other ways in the story. And humor can break all the rules.<BR/><BR/>hearwritenow,<BR/>You make an excellent point. Separating the narrative voice and dialogue often takes some time for writers to learn.Lillie Ammannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851121176224654240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-90759745968746423132008-10-17T21:57:00.000-06:002008-10-17T21:57:00.000-06:00Something I've picked up in a few manuscripts (and...Something I've picked up in a few manuscripts (and also published books) is "artistically used" grammar in the dialogue accidentally creeping into the third person narrative. In other words, the writer isn't skilled at separating him or herself from the characters. <BR/><BR/>It also goes back to what Morgan was saying last week about not forcing your characters to fit into your own perspective.Elle Carter Nealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02266309723919011181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-12674166764146353572008-10-17T17:50:00.000-06:002008-10-17T17:50:00.000-06:00>>>An uneducated laborer shouldn’t sound ...>>>An uneducated laborer shouldn’t sound like a college professor.<BR/><BR/>Well, you can break that rule in the movies. Who DIDN'T laugh when Eric Palin broke out with "I'm being oppressed!" and other Marxist rhetoric when manhandled by the King in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"?Mike Canehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396654716615965650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-48710378560332275302008-10-17T13:46:00.000-06:002008-10-17T13:46:00.000-06:00Helen,Consistency is so important.Karen,You're rig...Helen,<BR/>Consistency is so important.<BR/><BR/>Karen,<BR/>You're right—the frequency and number of errors indicates whether a writer is taking artistic license or doesn't have a clue.<BR/><BR/>Jenny,<BR/>You were taught well—breaking rules intentionally is far different from not knowing the rules.<BR/><BR/>Morgan,<BR/>Thanks for your input. I use sentence fragments also.Lillie Ammannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851121176224654240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-33658228462554725312008-10-17T11:23:00.000-06:002008-10-17T11:23:00.000-06:00I use fragmented sentences for effect. Otherwise, ...I use fragmented sentences for effect. Otherwise, I try to stick by the rules.<BR/><BR/>Morgan Mandel<BR/>www.morganmandel.com<BR/>http://morganmandel.blogspot.comMorgan Mandelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118929301591850918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-31613377317520022102008-10-17T10:21:00.000-06:002008-10-17T10:21:00.000-06:00Great thoughts you shared here, Lillie. Cliche as...Great thoughts you shared here, Lillie. Cliche as it may seem, I was taught in high school by a favorite teacher that you had to know the rules well before you tried to break them. There is just something about a well-broken rule that sings artistically, but the major booboos do really stand out and can make all the difference on your success with publishing and gaining an enthusiastic audience.Jenny Melzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11235663870008150355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-22457845287449138182008-10-17T09:13:00.000-06:002008-10-17T09:13:00.000-06:00Lillie, I love that last line! lol! This was reall...Lillie, I love that last line! lol! This was really clear and good advice on writing. I sometimes take artistic license too depending on the type of writing. You can always spot the difference between a good writer who knows the rule and is breaking them intentionally and a bad writer who does not have a clue. Goofs happen to the best of us but when a document is littered with them it is obvious that the writer really did not have a clue.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12971459039767092235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5704943052235281766.post-35718188939255239692008-10-17T08:20:00.000-06:002008-10-17T08:20:00.000-06:00Hi Lillie.I agree with you that you can break gram...Hi Lillie.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that you can break grammar rules in fiction writing -- but you need to break them consistently. <BR/><BR/>Good post.Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.com